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		<title>By: Jamie Freeland</title>
		<link>http://www.travisjmorgan.com/blog/2009/03/19/atheism-and-hope/#comment-19422</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie Freeland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 17:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These postings were very interesting to read.  I am a minister myself, but I live in a diverse family.  My brother is bordering between Agnostic and Atheistic, I am not sure which and my sister is a Wiccan.  I wanted to know more about what Atheists hoped for, and reading the post from HOT5 Unreligious right is quite enlightening.  I had made many friends who believe in a god, or none at all.  Though my beliefs help steer my life, I believe full and well, that is is faith in action that demonstrates what one believes or hopes for.  I have seen vicious words on both sides and hope (there I used that word) that theists and atheists can atleast talk without hate.  I am certain at the end of the day we may not be able to win the argument on either side, but atleast we have learned what the other person believes to be factual.  As a person with faith, I believe in accountability.  I am not a perfect person, and yes I like living this life.  But my belief shapes who I am, and how I live.  My goal in this life besides maintaining my faith, is to be a good person and treat otheres as I want to be treated: with respect.  As an American this has been the privledge that all of us here have, the ability to speak our mind without fear of being put to death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These postings were very interesting to read.  I am a minister myself, but I live in a diverse family.  My brother is bordering between Agnostic and Atheistic, I am not sure which and my sister is a Wiccan.  I wanted to know more about what Atheists hoped for, and reading the post from HOT5 Unreligious right is quite enlightening.  I had made many friends who believe in a god, or none at all.  Though my beliefs help steer my life, I believe full and well, that is is faith in action that demonstrates what one believes or hopes for.  I have seen vicious words on both sides and hope (there I used that word) that theists and atheists can atleast talk without hate.  I am certain at the end of the day we may not be able to win the argument on either side, but atleast we have learned what the other person believes to be factual.  As a person with faith, I believe in accountability.  I am not a perfect person, and yes I like living this life.  But my belief shapes who I am, and how I live.  My goal in this life besides maintaining my faith, is to be a good person and treat otheres as I want to be treated: with respect.  As an American this has been the privledge that all of us here have, the ability to speak our mind without fear of being put to death.</p>
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		<title>By: antimattr</title>
		<link>http://www.travisjmorgan.com/blog/2009/03/19/atheism-and-hope/#comment-19287</link>
		<dc:creator>antimattr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post! I hear that fallacy from theists quite a bit, that atheism does not give hope. I much prefer the hope that I get from the real world, from the people around me, from watching my daughter grow up, etc. to any fairy tales. I don&#039;t understand how people can think that hope, even if it&#039;s false, is better than living in the real world.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;antimattrs last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://anti-mattr.blogspot.com/2009/03/seattle-atheists-come-up-with-some.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Seattle Atheists come up with some interesting bus ads&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post! I hear that fallacy from theists quite a bit, that atheism does not give hope. I much prefer the hope that I get from the real world, from the people around me, from watching my daughter grow up, etc. to any fairy tales. I don&#8217;t understand how people can think that hope, even if it&#8217;s false, is better than living in the real world.</p>
<p><abbr><em>antimattrs last blog post..<a href="http://anti-mattr.blogspot.com/2009/03/seattle-atheists-come-up-with-some.html" rel="nofollow">Seattle Atheists come up with some interesting bus ads</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Gino Barcal</title>
		<link>http://www.travisjmorgan.com/blog/2009/03/19/atheism-and-hope/#comment-19275</link>
		<dc:creator>Gino Barcal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Atheist Counter-History

Behind the pacifist and loving speech, the majority of the religions promote in fact the destruction of everything that represents freedom and pleasure. They hate the body, the desires, the sexuality, the women, the intelligence and all the books, except one. The religions promote the submission, the chastity, the blind and conformistical faith on behalf of a fictitious paradise after the death. 

Only an atheistic person can be free, because the idea of a god is incompatible with the freedom of the human being. The idea of a god promotes the existence of a divine dimension, which denies the possibility to choose your own destination and to invent your own existence. If god exists, the Is is not free; on the other hand, if god does not exist, the Is can be free. The freedom is never given. It is acquired day by day. However, the basic principle of a god is an inhibiting impediment of the autonomy of the man. 

It means that when a person does not content himself only in believing dully, but starts to make questions on the sacred texts, the doctrine, the teachings of the religion, there is no way not to reach these conclusions. It is about not to leave the reason, with capital R, in second plan, behind the faith, and to give to the reason the power and the nobility that it deserves. 

The mechanism of the religions is of an illusion. It is like a mysterious toy we try to decipher by breaking it. The enchantment and the magic of the religion disappear when we see the mechanism and the reasons behind the beliefs. 

The priests are limited to use only one handful of words, texts and references that allow to better assure the control on the bodies, hearts and souls of the followers. The mythology of the religions need simplicity to become more efficient. The religions make a permanent promotion of the faith, the belief before the intelligence and the reason, the submission of the followers against the freedom of the independent thought, the darkness against the light. 

The necessity of cultivate culturally a god is based in ridicules ideas. We don’t have nothing in the brain beyond what we put in it. Have you seen a child believing in gods? Religions and gods are human beings inventions, just like philosophy, arts and metaphysics. These creations have been made to answer the necessities of confront the anguish of the death; But, we can react in other ways: For example, using the philosophy. 

The believe in a god is an impotence signal. We must be conscious of our possibilities. When we cannot prove something is necessary to recognize these limitation and not make concessions to tale-stories or mythology. The idea of the divine child is a species of infantile illness of the reflective thought. 

The majority of the people is allured by the elected icons of the media, and believe more in them than in the physical truth. The truth is that the role of the religions was not the best one: Attacks against Galileu, genocide during the crusades, the Muslim radicalism, silence before the holocaust, etc. What history show is that the religions instead promoting peace, love, fraternity, friendship between the people and the nations, for the most part produced most of the time the opposite. It does not seem very worthy that the monotheists generated some good here and there. In compensation, they generated extreme human barbarity; and this seems much more important as prove of the impotence of the doctrines. 

We cannot make much about it, except to say what it is truth. The Christians have little moral to disapprove old truths, when they themselves promote old errors until today. The philosophy can allow each one of us the comprehension of what is the world, of what can be our morals, our justice, the rules of the game for a happy existence between the humans, without the necessity of appealing to a god, to the holy ghost, to the sacred one, to the skies, to the religions. It is necessary to pass from the theological age to the age of the mass philosophy. 

The weakness, the fear, the anguish before the death, are the sources of all the religious beliefs, and they will never abandon the humanity. 

The history of the Christianity has just as much value as the mythology of Santa Claus. It is in the same level of the fairies stories, where the animals talk and the witches eat little kids. A thought that only serves the children. 

It is necessary to allow the free construction of ourselves as independent beings. To develop the counter-history of the atheist, sexualist, hedonist and anarchist philosophy.

Gino Barcal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Atheist Counter-History</p>
<p>Behind the pacifist and loving speech, the majority of the religions promote in fact the destruction of everything that represents freedom and pleasure. They hate the body, the desires, the sexuality, the women, the intelligence and all the books, except one. The religions promote the submission, the chastity, the blind and conformistical faith on behalf of a fictitious paradise after the death. </p>
<p>Only an atheistic person can be free, because the idea of a god is incompatible with the freedom of the human being. The idea of a god promotes the existence of a divine dimension, which denies the possibility to choose your own destination and to invent your own existence. If god exists, the Is is not free; on the other hand, if god does not exist, the Is can be free. The freedom is never given. It is acquired day by day. However, the basic principle of a god is an inhibiting impediment of the autonomy of the man. </p>
<p>It means that when a person does not content himself only in believing dully, but starts to make questions on the sacred texts, the doctrine, the teachings of the religion, there is no way not to reach these conclusions. It is about not to leave the reason, with capital R, in second plan, behind the faith, and to give to the reason the power and the nobility that it deserves. </p>
<p>The mechanism of the religions is of an illusion. It is like a mysterious toy we try to decipher by breaking it. The enchantment and the magic of the religion disappear when we see the mechanism and the reasons behind the beliefs. </p>
<p>The priests are limited to use only one handful of words, texts and references that allow to better assure the control on the bodies, hearts and souls of the followers. The mythology of the religions need simplicity to become more efficient. The religions make a permanent promotion of the faith, the belief before the intelligence and the reason, the submission of the followers against the freedom of the independent thought, the darkness against the light. </p>
<p>The necessity of cultivate culturally a god is based in ridicules ideas. We don’t have nothing in the brain beyond what we put in it. Have you seen a child believing in gods? Religions and gods are human beings inventions, just like philosophy, arts and metaphysics. These creations have been made to answer the necessities of confront the anguish of the death; But, we can react in other ways: For example, using the philosophy. </p>
<p>The believe in a god is an impotence signal. We must be conscious of our possibilities. When we cannot prove something is necessary to recognize these limitation and not make concessions to tale-stories or mythology. The idea of the divine child is a species of infantile illness of the reflective thought. </p>
<p>The majority of the people is allured by the elected icons of the media, and believe more in them than in the physical truth. The truth is that the role of the religions was not the best one: Attacks against Galileu, genocide during the crusades, the Muslim radicalism, silence before the holocaust, etc. What history show is that the religions instead promoting peace, love, fraternity, friendship between the people and the nations, for the most part produced most of the time the opposite. It does not seem very worthy that the monotheists generated some good here and there. In compensation, they generated extreme human barbarity; and this seems much more important as prove of the impotence of the doctrines. </p>
<p>We cannot make much about it, except to say what it is truth. The Christians have little moral to disapprove old truths, when they themselves promote old errors until today. The philosophy can allow each one of us the comprehension of what is the world, of what can be our morals, our justice, the rules of the game for a happy existence between the humans, without the necessity of appealing to a god, to the holy ghost, to the sacred one, to the skies, to the religions. It is necessary to pass from the theological age to the age of the mass philosophy. </p>
<p>The weakness, the fear, the anguish before the death, are the sources of all the religious beliefs, and they will never abandon the humanity. </p>
<p>The history of the Christianity has just as much value as the mythology of Santa Claus. It is in the same level of the fairies stories, where the animals talk and the witches eat little kids. A thought that only serves the children. </p>
<p>It is necessary to allow the free construction of ourselves as independent beings. To develop the counter-history of the atheist, sexualist, hedonist and anarchist philosophy.</p>
<p>Gino Barcal</p>
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		<title>By: John Nernoff III</title>
		<link>http://www.travisjmorgan.com/blog/2009/03/19/atheism-and-hope/#comment-19274</link>
		<dc:creator>John Nernoff III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Faith and belief are two of the commonest and stupidest excuses to holding anything to be the case. These 2 words do not require evidence, rational thinking, reason or logic. More to the point they do not require HARD WORK. You just sit back and make an utterance as to what you hope for, and equally stupid people will think you have something special. That&#039;s all I have to say. Religious hope is dismissed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faith and belief are two of the commonest and stupidest excuses to holding anything to be the case. These 2 words do not require evidence, rational thinking, reason or logic. More to the point they do not require HARD WORK. You just sit back and make an utterance as to what you hope for, and equally stupid people will think you have something special. That&#8217;s all I have to say. Religious hope is dismissed.</p>
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		<title>By: UNRR</title>
		<link>http://www.travisjmorgan.com/blog/2009/03/19/atheism-and-hope/#comment-19267</link>
		<dc:creator>UNRR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post has been linked for the HOT5 Daily 3/20/2009, at &lt;a href=&quot;http://unreligiousright.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Unreligious Right&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;UNRRs last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://unreligiousright.blogspot.com/2009/03/hot5-daily-3202009.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;HOT5 Daily 3/20/2009&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post has been linked for the HOT5 Daily 3/20/2009, at <a href="http://unreligiousright.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">The Unreligious Right</a></p>
<p><abbr><em>UNRRs last blog post..<a href="http://unreligiousright.blogspot.com/2009/03/hot5-daily-3202009.html" rel="nofollow">HOT5 Daily 3/20/2009</a></em></abbr></p>
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