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		<title>By: Travis A Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travis A Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 05:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, Travis!! Your name is my name too!
Looks like there&#039;s a couple Travis&#039; on here.

I like your work as well, you&#039;re a very creative person! I&#039;m a Christian. But have no worries, I&#039;m not at all offended. (What&#039;s up with Yahoo? Where&#039;s the love?) I personally believe that if God is real, and that if I truly believe He created this universe, then God and this universe should be explainable in unison, scientifically. I don&#039;t believe there should be a disconnect between the supernatural and science.

I&#039;ve personally seen and experienced enough scientific evidence of His existence and desire to be involved in my life.

I think if someone came from BCE and saw computers and air planes that they would think it was all just supernatural. But it&#039;s scientific achievement. 

Anyway, I like your website and I&#039;ll probably be stopping by periodically. 

Keep on keepin&#039; on!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, Travis!! Your name is my name too!<br />
Looks like there&#8217;s a couple Travis&#8217; on here.</p>
<p>I like your work as well, you&#8217;re a very creative person! I&#8217;m a Christian. But have no worries, I&#8217;m not at all offended. (What&#8217;s up with Yahoo? Where&#8217;s the love?) I personally believe that if God is real, and that if I truly believe He created this universe, then God and this universe should be explainable in unison, scientifically. I don&#8217;t believe there should be a disconnect between the supernatural and science.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve personally seen and experienced enough scientific evidence of His existence and desire to be involved in my life.</p>
<p>I think if someone came from BCE and saw computers and air planes that they would think it was all just supernatural. But it&#8217;s scientific achievement. </p>
<p>Anyway, I like your website and I&#8217;ll probably be stopping by periodically. </p>
<p>Keep on keepin&#8217; on!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not a contradiction to be superhuman, right?  Superman can be seen and touched, right?  Superman can catch you when you fall off a building, right?  He can even zap you with his X-Ray vision, right?  He is super (meaning beyond) + human.  But he looks like a man, Clark Kent.  When he isn&#039;t wearing his flashy costume, Superman behaves just like the rest of us humans--even acting weaker than he really is so he does not hurt us.  So his superhuman ability also includes the range of human abilities we also have.

Super + human = Super[hu]man, right?

Along the same lines, I could assert that God can be observed.  He is over all, through all, and in all, as some believe.  But not only could He pervade the very fabric of existence, what if He goes on, right past the edge of what we can see, out into realms and dimensions we can neither touch nor experience with our instruments?  What if back beyond the fold of the Cosmos, past the edge of our 3.5-dimensional existence, things could go on farther (or, for that matter, further)?

Or is the rest of the very Earth on which you live simply gone because you cannot see it all at once?  Is the rest of the Galaxy gone simply because we cannot observe it all (gravitational lensing being besides the point) at once?

Beyond the edge of what we know, I could argue that God exists, and yet still, I could argue that the locus of known space and time that we occupy could also contain Him.  Just like Super+man&#039;s abilities are beyond human but not self-contradictory, and also inclusive of human abilities, so Super+natural&#039;s abiliities can be beyond nature, yet still include nature and natural abilities.

Your second premise is easier to disprove when we take a locus of points on the X-axis, residing in this domain [-1, +1].  If we take a similar locus of points on the X-axis, also residing in this domain:  (-100, +100), then will it not include (-1, 1) while also surpassing it at the very same time?

Otherwise, there would not be one interval but two:  (-100, -1] and [+1, +100)!  This would suggest that &quot;supernatural&quot; abilities reach beyond our abilities, yet do not include them.  This would be a fallacy, primarily because an infinitely powerful being would be able to do anything, right?  From creating worlds to sharpening pencils, right?

I will use pairs of lower case &quot;o&quot; letters to indicate infinity (oo).  Thus, God could exist and be infinite--passing along the domain of X [-oo, +oo], the range of Y [-oo, +oo], the threshold of Z [-oo, +oo], the continuum of Theta (we&#039;re talking time now) [-oo, +oo], and the realm of Gamma (assuming a dimension beyond time) [-oo, +oo], all of which could still include locus of all observeable spacetime, which may or may not be infinite, but of which we have only experienced a finite amount.

God could fully occupy all known, unknown, and barely-known dimensions and yet still pervade our own.  Within which, He could even communicate with us, if He so desires.

But mere proof is not enough.  The Israelites had proof, but a generation still died in the desert wanderings (book of Numbers).

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Chriss last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://invertedlife.blogspot.com/2008/05/whats-your-load.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What&#039;s Your Load?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not a contradiction to be superhuman, right?  Superman can be seen and touched, right?  Superman can catch you when you fall off a building, right?  He can even zap you with his X-Ray vision, right?  He is super (meaning beyond) + human.  But he looks like a man, Clark Kent.  When he isn&#8217;t wearing his flashy costume, Superman behaves just like the rest of us humans&#8211;even acting weaker than he really is so he does not hurt us.  So his superhuman ability also includes the range of human abilities we also have.</p>
<p>Super + human = Super[hu]man, right?</p>
<p>Along the same lines, I could assert that God can be observed.  He is over all, through all, and in all, as some believe.  But not only could He pervade the very fabric of existence, what if He goes on, right past the edge of what we can see, out into realms and dimensions we can neither touch nor experience with our instruments?  What if back beyond the fold of the Cosmos, past the edge of our 3.5-dimensional existence, things could go on farther (or, for that matter, further)?</p>
<p>Or is the rest of the very Earth on which you live simply gone because you cannot see it all at once?  Is the rest of the Galaxy gone simply because we cannot observe it all (gravitational lensing being besides the point) at once?</p>
<p>Beyond the edge of what we know, I could argue that God exists, and yet still, I could argue that the locus of known space and time that we occupy could also contain Him.  Just like Super+man&#8217;s abilities are beyond human but not self-contradictory, and also inclusive of human abilities, so Super+natural&#8217;s abiliities can be beyond nature, yet still include nature and natural abilities.</p>
<p>Your second premise is easier to disprove when we take a locus of points on the X-axis, residing in this domain [-1, +1].  If we take a similar locus of points on the X-axis, also residing in this domain:  (-100, +100), then will it not include (-1, 1) while also surpassing it at the very same time?</p>
<p>Otherwise, there would not be one interval but two:  (-100, -1] and [+1, +100)!  This would suggest that "supernatural" abilities reach beyond our abilities, yet do not include them.  This would be a fallacy, primarily because an infinitely powerful being would be able to do anything, right?  From creating worlds to sharpening pencils, right?</p>
<p>I will use pairs of lower case "o" letters to indicate infinity (oo).  Thus, God could exist and be infinite--passing along the domain of X [-oo, +oo], the range of Y [-oo, +oo], the threshold of Z [-oo, +oo], the continuum of Theta (we&#8217;re talking time now) [-oo, +oo], and the realm of Gamma (assuming a dimension beyond time) [-oo, +oo], all of which could still include locus of all observeable spacetime, which may or may not be infinite, but of which we have only experienced a finite amount.</p>
<p>God could fully occupy all known, unknown, and barely-known dimensions and yet still pervade our own.  Within which, He could even communicate with us, if He so desires.</p>
<p>But mere proof is not enough.  The Israelites had proof, but a generation still died in the desert wanderings (book of Numbers).</p>
<p><abbr><em>Chriss last blog post..<a href="http://invertedlife.blogspot.com/2008/05/whats-your-load.html" rel="nofollow">What&#8217;s Your Load?</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Vicki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one knows much on how He (God) looks like. So, he probably has no definite shape and bla bla bla. But he is known through God the Son, and characterized and personified that way. When it says God is infinate, it means his power. So, whether or not he has a shape or not, I&#039;ll tell ya when I come back from the dead. By the way, I love that cherry blossom poem.:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one knows much on how He (God) looks like. So, he probably has no definite shape and bla bla bla. But he is known through God the Son, and characterized and personified that way. When it says God is infinate, it means his power. So, whether or not he has a shape or not, I&#8217;ll tell ya when I come back from the dead. By the way, I love that cherry blossom poem.:)</p>
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		<title>By: Travis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad4d, I agree. I&#039;m disappointed in how much time has been wasted on the concept.

Yahoo, why be anonymous? Anyways, take care! &quot;But whomsoever shall say â€˜Thou fool&#039; shall be in danger of hell fire.&quot; (Matthew 5:22)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad4d, I agree. I&#8217;m disappointed in how much time has been wasted on the concept.</p>
<p>Yahoo, why be anonymous? Anyways, take care! &#8220;But whomsoever shall say â€˜Thou fool&#8217; shall be in danger of hell fire.&#8221; (Matthew 5:22)</p>
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		<title>By: yahoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>yahoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 03:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A fool says in his heart, there is no God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fool says in his heart, there is no God.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad4d</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad4d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe the paradox is that the concept of a creator attracts attention it doesn&#039;t deserve?

&lt;em&gt;Brad4d&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://bradisms.blogspot.com/2008/04/loser-denial.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;loser denial&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe the paradox is that the concept of a creator attracts attention it doesn&#8217;t deserve?</p>
<p><em>Brad4d&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://bradisms.blogspot.com/2008/04/loser-denial.html' rel="nofollow">loser denial</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Anok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bee in your bonnet? *Grin*

&lt;em&gt;Anok&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://identitycheck-anok.blogspot.com/2008/03/updates-with-details.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Updates, with details.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bee in your bonnet? *Grin*</p>
<p><em>Anok&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://identitycheck-anok.blogspot.com/2008/03/updates-with-details.html' rel="nofollow">Updates, with details.</a></em></p>
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